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Tantek ()'s status on Saturday, 09-Nov-2024 08:31:00 EST Tantek Day 1 of #IndieWebCamp #Berlin 2024¹ was very well attended!
* 20 participants, more than 3x the previous one in 2022, and second highest (2019 had 22).
* 18 introduced themselves² and their personal sites or aspirations for one
Collectively we proposed and facilitated 11 breakout sessions³ on many timely #indieweb topics covering #syndication, #inclusion, #longevity, #federation / #fediverse, how to best use #Mastodon with your personal site, #privacy and #security concerns of being online, #writing, how can we design better user interfaces for text authoring, and personalized reading #algorithms for staying connected with friends.
Session titles (and hashtags)
* How to #POSSE
* How to make the web queerer / stranger. #queer
* Online presence after our #death
* Threat modeling #threatmodeling
* Non-technical collaboration on the internet. #collab
* Locations and #places check-in
* Writing with images. #imagewriting
* Text authoring UX. #textUX
* #SSR, organizing CSS/JS
* Website design without being a designer. #designfordummies
* Timeline algorithms. #timelines
Etherpad notes from sessions have been archived to the wiki, with session recordings to follow!
Day 2 also had 20 in-person participants, the highest IndieWebCamp Berlin day 2 attendance ever! Most everyone from day 1 came back to hack, and three new people showed up. We also had several remote participants.
References
¹ https://indieweb.org/2024
² https://indieweb.org/2024/Berlin/Intros
³ https://indieweb.org/2024/Berlin/Schedule#Saturday
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Tantek ()'s status on Tuesday, 03-Sep-2024 21:47:00 EDT Tantek Twenty years ago this past February, Kevin Marks and I introduced #microformats in a conference presentation.
Full post: https://tantek.com/2024/044/t1/twenty-years-microformats
Aside: This is an even shorter summary of that post from ~200 days ago, which #Mastodon readers never got due to a Mastodon #federation bug (details in https://tantek.com/t5Yo1).
Since early 2023, here are the top three updates & interesting developments in microformats:
1. Growing rel=me adoption for distributed verification (✅ in Mastodon etc.)
* Wikipedia, Threads, omg.lol
2. Proposal to merge #microformats2 h-review into h-entry, since in practice (e.g. on #indieweb) reviews are just entries with a bit more.
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Tantek ()'s status on Tuesday, 03-Sep-2024 17:02:00 EDT Tantek Twenty years ago this past February, @KevinMarks.com (@KevinMarks@xoxo.zone) and I introduced #microformats in a conference presentation.
Full post: https://tantek.com/2024/044/t1/twenty-years-microformats
Aside: This is a summary of a longer post from ~200 days ago¹, which #Mastodon readers never got due to a Mastodon #federation bug (instances returned 202 for post inbox delivery, but did not show post to followers or on local profiles, details in https://tantek.com/t5Yo1).
I wrote a retrospective last year: https://tantek.com/2023/047/t1/nineteen-years-microformats
Since then, here are the top three updates & interesting developments in microformats:
1. Growing rel=me adoption for distributed verification (✅ in Mastodon etc.)
* Wikipedia, Threads, omg.lol support
2. A proposal to merge #microformats2 h-review into h-entry, since reviews are in practice (e.g. on the #indieweb) always entries with a bit more information.
3. #metaformats adoptions, implementations, and iteration
More details:
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Tantek ()'s status on Tuesday, 23-Jan-2024 20:20:00 EST Tantek @snarfed.org posted a great overview of thoughtful (and sometimes heated) discussions across blogs and the #fediverse about how freely should “public” posts & comments on the web flow across sites:
“Moderate people, not code” (https://snarfed.org/2024-01-21_moderate-people-not-code)
If you are designing or creating any kind of publishing or social features on the web, this post is for you.
It touches on topics ranging from #contextCollapse to #federation to #moderation and everything in between.
Does your choice of publishing tool set expectations about where your content might propagate, or whether it will be indexed by search engines? Should it?
Do the limitations of your server (e.g. js;dr) imply limitations of where your posts go, or whether they can be searched or archived? Should they?
When you post something publicly, are you truly posting it for a global audience for all time, or only for one or a few more limited #publics for an ephemerality?
When you reply to a post, do you expect your reply to only be visible in the context you posted it, or do you expect it to travel alongside that post to anywhere it might propagate to?
On the #IndieWeb, especially for public posts, some of these questions have easier and more obvious answers, because the intent of nearly all public IndieWeb posts is to interact across the web with other posts and sites, typically via the #Webmention protocol. However there are still questions.
Are the expectations for a blog and blogging different from a social media site, whether a silo or an instance on a network?
Is a personal website with posts still just a blog, or does it become something new when you start posting responses from your site, or receiving (e.g. via Webmention) and displaying responses from across the web to your posts on your site? Or is it now a “social website”?
If you have a social website, what is your responsibility for keeping it, well, social? Do you moderate Webmentions by default? Do you use the Vouch extension for some automatic moderation?
Are #POSSE & #backfeed different from federation or are they the same thing from a user-perspective, with merely different names hinting at different implementations?
Do you allow anyone from any site to respond or react to your posts? Or do you treat your social website like your home, and follow what I like to call a "house party protocol", only letting in those you know, and perhaps allowing them to bring a +1 or 2?
I have many more questions. Each of these deserves thoughtful discussions, documentation of what different tools & services do today that we can try out, learn from, and use to make considered decisions when creating new things to post on and across websites.
This is post 4 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts
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Post glossary:
backfeed
https://indieweb.org/backfeed
blog
https://indieweb.org/blog
blogging
https://indieweb.org/blogging
comments
https://indieweb.org/comments
context collapse
https://indieweb.org/context_collapse
ephemerality
https://indieweb.org/ephemerality
js;dr
https://indieweb.org/js;dr
moderation
https://indieweb.org/moderation
POSSE
https://indieweb.org/POSSE
posts
https://indieweb.org/posts
publics
https://indieweb.org/publics
reply
https://indieweb.org/reply
Vouch
https://indieweb.org/Vouch
Webmention
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Tantek ()'s status on Thursday, 07-Dec-2023 20:09:00 EST Tantek at a fascinating #Threads meetup hosted by Meta in San Francisco, with a handful of great #dataportability #fediverse #indieweb #openweb folks, learning about and providing feedback to Threads folks about their #federation #ActivityPub and other #openStandards support plans.
Chatham House rule¹ means we can quote and talk about what’s being discussed (I’m taking notes), however no attribution, which I’m extending to not saying (or @-@-mentioning) who else is here.
If you’re also here, feel free to reply to this post or use one of the below hashtags. And since I’m publishing this, feel free to @-me as well.
#DataDialogue #Threadiverse (unofficial hashtag suggestion from a participant)
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Tantek ()'s status on Wednesday, 19-Apr-2023 20:48:00 EDT Tantek 10 years ago today the first #federated #IndieWeb comment thread was published and collected peer-to-peer IndieWeb replies across websites without any intermediary, silo or otherwise¹.
2013-04-19 @eschnou.com posted a brief note on his personal site with #atMentions of a few domains (putting an '@' sign immediately before a domain name to indicate an explicit cross-web @-mention), which itself was also a first²
"Testing #indieweb federation with @waterpigs.co.uk, @aaronparecki.com and @indiewebcamp.com !"
When @aaronpk.com was notified and replied from his site within minutes³, it became the first peer-to-peer federated IndieWeb comment thread, at the time using h-entry and Pingback. I blogged about it a few days later⁴.
Earlier this year I blogged more observations of all the user interactions that happened on that day and shortly thereafter to make this all work: https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention
Unfortunately Laurent Eschnou’s original post is no longer up, and we only have the Internet Archive copy. However most of the IndieWeb reply posts are still up including Barnaby’s: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1334/
The oldest still working federated post and comment thread was second overall, unsurprisingly from @aaronparecki.com⁵, a whole 40 days after Laurent’s first.
This is day 37 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse
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Glossary
federation
https://indieweb.org/federation
h-entry
https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry
Pingback
https://indieweb.org/Pingback
reply post
https://indieweb.org/reply
References
¹ https://web.archive.org/web/20130427010301/http://eschnou.com/entry/testing-indieweb-federation-with-waterpigscouk-aaronpareckicom-and--62-24908.html
² https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention
³ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/04/19/3/indieweb
⁴ https://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread
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Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Thursday, 23-Aug-2018 15:19:41 EDT Bob Jonkman ...I thought #Diaspora and #Friendica (and #Hubzilla) *were* alternatives to #Facebook... Just like #Facebook, they have long-form posts, media, replies, likes, tags, and (different from #Facebook) #Federation! -
Mayel (mayel)'s status on Friday, 13-Jul-2018 09:20:57 EDT Mayel I've been using the #CryptPad collaborative online #editor with end-to-end encryption (and getting a lot of friends to use it) so much that I'm considering setting up an instance on a server.
@cryptpad is now fundraising for some awesome milestones:
- Spreadsheets and Office-like docs by integrating http://onlyoffice.com
- Commenting
- Shared Drives
- #Federation for pads with cross-instance commenting and messaging!
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Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 22-Jul-2017 15:31:08 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca The !Fediverse is fine. That's the wondrous nature of #Federation, when a few instances go AWOL it's not the end of life as we know it. -
Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Friday, 21-Apr-2017 15:23:33 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca The "Good news" was in reference to your hubby's return, the remainder was me griping about my inadequate setup. #Federation is great, but it does require instance admins to keep their software up-to-date (mine is still at StatusNet 1.1.0+security). So it's entirely my own fault that I needed to hunt all over your site for the conversation thread. -
robek world (rw)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jul-2016 16:20:41 EDT robek world I've created this handy video explanation of the #federation on #gnusocial for all the new users who have joined during this recent #FreeMilo exodus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1lYU5CA40o Dive in and enjoy your stay. ps: If you'd like t… -
robek world (rw)'s status on Wednesday, 20-Jul-2016 16:20:41 EDT robek world I've created this handy video explanation of the #federation on #gnusocial for all the new users who have joined during this recent #FreeMilo exodus.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1lYU5CA40o Dive in and enjoy your stay. ps: If you'd like t… -
MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 31-Dec-2015 07:16:18 EST MMN-o ✅⃠ @heluecht How was the #federation on #32c3? Did people (or robots) do anything constructive?
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak (rysiek)'s status on Sunday, 27-Dec-2015 09:54:01 EST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak My talk at the #32C3 #FSFE assembly -- "Bringing free-as-in-freedom to social networks: what, why, and how" -- is tomorrow, Dev 28th at 20:00 in Hall 13. Come one come all!
#Decentralisation #Federation #TheFederation #Diaspora #Friendica
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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak (rysiek)'s status on Sunday, 27-Dec-2015 09:54:01 EST Michał "rysiek" Woźniak My talk at the #32C3 #FSFE assembly -- "Bringing free-as-in-freedom to social networks: what, why, and how" -- is tomorrow, Dev 28th at 20:00 in Hall 13. Come one come all!
#Decentralisation #Federation #TheFederation #Diaspora #Friendica
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Christopher M. Hobbs (cmhobbs)'s status on Tuesday, 24-Nov-2015 10:40:14 EST Christopher M. Hobbs #braindump because I don't have access to my machine or a journal right now. some things I've been trying to think through lately: masonic philosophy, #pike, #emerson, #thoreau, #walking, #selfreliance, #deism, #transcendentalism, #anarchis… -
MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Saturday, 10-Oct-2015 15:11:05 EDT
MMN-o ✅⃠
ActivityStreams Wiki
Some pretty good data and examples can be found on this site.
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MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Friday, 09-Oct-2015 12:24:46 EDT MMN-o ✅⃠ We were almost 10 I think ;) But this was in parallell with the #ShareableLab event, so we intermixed with those people quite a lot. And in the non-techie sessions they were introduced to why !fs and #federation is important for any sort of organising which has to last over time. -
Manuel Ortega (manuel)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Sep-2015 04:44:18 EDT Manuel Ortega #Federation !ostatus ~ node installation ~ federated social web ~ distributed networks ~ !gs !gnusocial plugin development ~ node maintenance ~ sharing platforms ~ interoperability with friendica and diaspora ~ integration with #WordPress !wpgnu… -
Manuel Ortega (manuel)'s status on Wednesday, 02-Sep-2015 04:44:04 EDT Manuel Ortega #Federation !ostatus ~ instalación de nodos ~ web social federativa ~ redes distribuidas ~ desarrollo de plugins para !gs !gnusocial mantenimiento de nodos ~ plataformas del compartir ~ interoperabilidad con friendica y diaspora ~ integración …