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1. Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Wednesday, 28-Jan-2015 15:43:33 EST Blaise Alleyne
   So good. An argument that the best way to Freedom on Mobile Computers is: Firefox OS, Custom Hardware, Network Services http://ur1.ca/jkfph
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 01:07:25 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne Sorry to take so long to respond! I have a stopped-but-should-be-moving-soon projec…
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 01:07:28 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     ♻ @balleyne: So good. An argument that the best way to Freedom on Mobile Computers is: Firef…
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 13:01:34 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj: Interesting. I'm still unsure of Firefox OS, but I share all those Android criticisms. I'm at least open to Firefox OS now.
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 13:19:06 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne Firefox OS has the same problems in the Linux kernel (i.e., binary blobs) as Android…
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 13:20:58 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     Which makes me think how proprietary Linux has become, when it's normally the only piece of so…
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 13:48:38 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj: I'm concerned that the ecosystem will be full of non-free software, just like the Firefox extension repos.
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 13:53:20 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj: Also, are native apps an option? Or only HTML5? One of the nice things about Maemo was being able to write in C, Python, etc.
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 16:33:57 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne Oh, certainly. The ecosystem is made by people, and in general people don't care ab…
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 16:35:42 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne Oh, so far I found nothing comparable to Maemo. Those days are gone, at least for now...
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 16:44:24 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj: Maemo wasn't free either, tons of proprietary stuff. But it seemed to have a more software freedom friendly ecosystem beyond core
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 16:45:34 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     • Sergio Durigan Junior
     @sergiodj: Yeah, I think I'm convinced that Firefox OS is a step forward from Android. I'm just worried the app space will be just as bad.
     McScx likes this.
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 17:05:34 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne It probably will, but I don't blame Mozilla for this specific detail. If the device…
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 22:02:36 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj I'd rather Mozila over Google, but they *can* set a tone with their marketplace/repo policy. They don't favour/require FLOSS apps
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 22:04:35 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     • Sergio Durigan Junior
     @sergiodj e.g. look at Ubuntu. Most apps are FLOSS in repos, though as they loosen policies to include more non-free apps, it changes.
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 22:11:35 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj I guess I'd be happy if Mozilla at least separated out FAIF and non-FAIF, e.g. separate repos that you could disable or something
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 23:00:52 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     ♻ @balleyne: @sergiodj I guess I'd be happy if Mozilla at least separated out FAIF and non-F…
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Friday, 13-Feb-2015 23:01:39 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne I second that. But it is not Mozilla's interest to do that, apparently. However, A…
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 00:26:10 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     @sergiodj I thought Firefox Marketplace was the Firefox OS equivalent of Google Play? https://marketplace.firefox.com/
   • Sergio Durigan Junior (sergiodj)'s status on Saturday, 14-Feb-2015 21:06:13 EST Sergio Durigan Junior

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     @balleyne Yes, you're right, I should have been clearer. My point was that AFAIU Mozilla does…
   • Blaise Alleyne (balleyne)'s status on Monday, 16-Feb-2015 23:53:21 EST Blaise Alleyne

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     • Sergio Durigan Junior
     @sergiodj: ah, yeah, I think Mozilla's plan is to be more open to 3rd party repos, but I'd bet +90% of people still just use the main one =\