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1. Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:26:41 EST Bob Jonkman

   • David Hunt
   I'm using #Mate as well, and it works for me, but I am visually dependent. #Jami offers no clues about keystroke shortcuts, and doesn't have the standard "File, Edit, Options, Help" style menu. It does not seem to have any navigation accessibility.
   • David Hunt (davehunt)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 18:39:51 EST David Hunt
     I just installed #GNU Jami onto this @ubuntu_mate machine. https://social.mayfirst.org/url/1918521 #VOIP #Distributed #Conferencing #communications My username is Dave_H as yet, I have no contacts. Who wants to be my first experimental subject? Hahahaha. FYI, the project used to be known as #GNU Ring. I was able to make my account with no assistance, though found a few unlabeled controls, and a couple of toggles that had to be reached and activated using orca's flat review to emulate mouse clicks. #a11y #blindness #blind
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   • Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 19:41:33 EST Bob Jonkman

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     • David Hunt
     I'll play! I'm "bobjonkman" -- I searched for "Dave_H", added the contact, but can't send you a message. Maybe you need to add me first?
   • Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Friday, 25-Jan-2019 19:42:45 EST Bob Jonkman

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     My first thought about #Jami is "Oh no, not another #IncompatibleWithEverythingElse chat client. Seems lighter than #Wire, tho, so that's a thing in its favour.
   • Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:29:59 EST Bob Jonkman

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     • David Hunt
     I got your messages, which are labelled "7 hour ago" (no real timestamps, not even any mouseover popups). I was idling, but away from the computer. Now when I try to send a reply the text has a red background and a graphical X beside it, but no indication what that means. Probably that you're not online right now. @davehunt
   • Bob Jonkman (bobjonkman)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 08:32:10 EST Bob Jonkman

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     • David Hunt
     With the inaccessible UI problems, the lack of store-and-forward messaging, and its lack of interoperability with other messaging protocols, I doubt I'll be using #Jami much longer. But it would be nice to have at least one exchange with someone! @davehunt
   • AmarOk (amarok)'s status on Saturday, 26-Jan-2019 10:09:37 EST AmarOk

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     • David Hunt

     @bobjonkman @davehunt @bobjonkman I hope bridges are coming this year. I currently have bridges with Discord/IRC/mattermost and a SIP account so it's still compatible with a lot of things but just for me.

     For accessibility, a blind person can use Jami (at least last time we had some feedback, I think the mail is still on the ML) (with the screen reader on via the hidden labels). But yeah I need to add more keystroke shortcuts... never had the time to do that.

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