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I wish more people told me about whatever I do that's bad for ecology/society/whatever and had a good discussion about it so I can learn/change. If that doesn't happen, I will likely continue to think I am not doing anything particularly wrong or bad.
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^- On that topic, I still can't understand why vegetarians, equal rights activists, general leftists etc. keep insisting on using proprietary software. As in explicitly being aware of but refusing to migrate or put effort into the benefit of !fs.
It sometimes makes me so confused/annoyed that I just want to go out and buy meat, harass people based on gender and start a company in protest against other activists' struggles.
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But of course I don't. I just keep using and developing !fs (+ free culture etc.), avoiding the meat industry, actively supporting equal rights movements and try my best to create/support commons.
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My reasoning is that these things are intertwined. Equal rights (race/class/gender/sexuality) is without a doubt the exact same struggle (principally/philosophically) as libre software, knowledge, culture in general. I don't think there's any doubt about that.
Vegetarianism is a bit more far-fetched. But if someone's avoiding the meat industry for ecology/sustainability reasons then I believe they should be just as equally involved with blobfree technology as in animalfree foods. (or - which I'd totally accept - simply avoiding the encumbered technologies)
General leftists etc. should already be both equal rights proponents and vegetarian (with possible exception of meat in a very low-grade sustainable self-reliance manner). So no more arguments are needed there..
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@maltimore Yes. The argument goes both ways. If we want libre software because it is ethical (having a fair society for current and future generations since the power structures of proprietary software cause problems), then it should be easy to see that consumption of meat will cause such harm that the average human's degrees of freedom (which includes maintaining technology in a fair manner as a common) will be greatly diminished in the foreseeable future.
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@maltimore Oh, I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough. I _am_ a vegetarian. No need to convince me .)
I do occasionally buy products with dairy and/or eggs - but I am very well aware of these rare occasions and make sure to compensate. (with software one could conceive of a person using Photoshop for a living but actively supporting GIMP/Krita/whatever).
Though I should also comment that I do eat meat, but only from !dumpsterdiving etc, since I believe it's much better to consume those calories if they're thrown away and are going to be wasted/burned anyway.
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@pettter As long as there is active "compensation" going the right way, it's harder to argue against.
Something like the Photoshop/GIMP example I used here: https://social.umeahackerspace.se/notice/1351836
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@pettter The people I refer to in my unnamed grouping of people above are those who _actively_ avoid the "better" choice without bothering at all in doing something "good" (for lack of better words) as compensation.
I find it interesting you would say FS is an easier practice than vegetarianism! I would probably say myself that veg. is easier than FS. Probably depends on which aspect one has (social, personal, work)...
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I'll go ahead and tag this thread with #SFD2017 !fs :)
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@dwmatiz I have #Win10 at work. It does _not_ "just work". I have already spent almost an hour trying to configure stuff so it works, but the laptop still stops outputting audio when the screen goes blank, goes to sleep when the lid is closed (despite power configuration which I've quadruplechecked!) etc. etc.
These are problems I have never had with GNU/Linux. There _are_ issues of course with !fs but those we can fix. You can't fix proprietary software. Or maybe you can suggest solutions, but then you might have to buy a new license to receive the update.
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@shellkr Isn't climate issues directly related to possibilities of democracy in the future? .)
Environmentalism isn't a religion. It's based on facts. Assuming that the general sense of direction is not straight down the drain, of course.
Environmentalists who criticise the waste of resources in a society with excess consumption are of course entirely correct. But free software generally decreases waste of resources and is thus at least more compatible for environmentalists than burning coal&oil to produce plastic crap .)