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  1. Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:47:45 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
    Annoyed by #Wikipedia #deletionists. Created article on @KWLinuxfest, tagged "request for *speedy* deletion" in 3 hrs, gone 4 hours later
    Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:47:45 EDT from sn.jonkman.ca permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:51:12 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      The #deletionists claim the topic is of no importance or significance. How do they know? Their user page shows they're not from KW
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:51:12 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:52:39 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      After RfD I added a paragraph that @KWLinuxfest is the only remaining GNU/Linux conference in #Ontario. Got deleted anyway.
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:52:39 EDT permalink
    • maiyannah (maiyannah)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:54:08 EDT maiyannah maiyannah
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman Wikipedia is an intensely political place.
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:54:08 EDT permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:55:30 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      It doesn't even meet the #deletionists own criteria for "importance or significance" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:CSD#A7
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:55:30 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:59:11 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      7 hours! No chance for anyone with knowledge of @KWLinuxfest to contribute, and improve the article.
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 11:59:11 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:02:49 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Had a look at the user contributions of these two #deletionists — mostly deletions and reverts. No surprise there
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:02:49 EDT permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:19:11 EDT LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman Yeah, #deletionists and the #deletion_wars they spark are one reason a lot of people don't contribute to #Wikipedia. I know they prevent a lot of spam and self-promotion, but they may be too aggressive sometimes.

      otability / significance requirements often boil down to "I haven't heard of it before, so it must not be significant."
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:19:11 EDT permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:59:19 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      I'm not sure how to appeal this; if I just recreate the article I'm sure be flagged as a spammer. #deletionists
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 12:59:19 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:00:44 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      The article on @KWLinuxfest used to be at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KW_Linuxfest
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:00:44 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:01:51 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Now all that's left of @KWLinuxfest is https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=KW_Linuxfest #deletionists
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:01:51 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:13:36 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      I've complained about #deletionists before, but it's only gotten worse since then: http://sn.jonkman.ca/conversation/708303#notice-1113373
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:13:36 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:24:25 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      And I'm not the only who thinks #deletionists are harmful: https://boingboing.net/2017/02/16/40-of-wikipedia-is-under-thre.html
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:24:25 EDT permalink

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    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:27:20 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      And, funny thing, I've been a #Wikipedia editor maybe longer than some #deletionists have been alive! Any 15yo with a Del key can play
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:27:20 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:28:00 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      #Duffers vs. #Deletionists http://sn.jonkman.ca/conversation/1050587#notice-1560128
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:28:00 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:33:27 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      ♻ Sunflower @keeferrourke: I have a Wikipedia account and could contribute to the page probably. It might also be worth sending a notice to kwlug-disc about this. ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/keeferrourke/status/901495249842864128
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:33:27 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:40:29 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      Good idea, @KeeferRourke! But how can we restore the @KWLinuxfest article? I could recreate it, only to give the #deletionists more ammo
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:40:29 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:47:21 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • mbjunior
      ♻ Марсио Baрbado, Jр. @mbjunior: Detetionism is a Wikipedia thing. Both bots and humans perform it. And yes, it sucks. ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/mbjunior/status/901500354591903744
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 13:47:21 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:19:08 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      ♻ Sunflower @keeferrourke: interesting that the #deletionist does not welcome discussion on their talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alex_Shih ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/keeferrourke/status/901504960394932224
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:19:08 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:20:28 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      ♻ Sunflower @keeferrourke: Do you have a copy of the article still? Perhaps I could post it, mention the deletion in the talk page, and you could contribute to it? ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/keeferrourke/status/901505205648445443
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:20:28 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:21:59 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      No, of course I didn't keep a copy of the @KWLinuxfest article. Things posted on the #Internet are there forever, right? @keeferrourke
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:21:59 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:24:25 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      ♻ Sunflower @keeferrourke: At any rate, regardless of who recreates the page, I think it should still be recreated. Calling out the deletionist on the Talk page is probably the best idea here. Particularly emphasise the uniqueness of the conference and you should have a case. Other conferences and events have their own articles. ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/keeferrourke/status/901505908357902336
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:24:25 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:40:36 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      Since nobody had time to improve and expand the @KWLinuxfest article, I should be able to re-publish it. #deletionists @keeferrourke
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:40:36 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:41:01 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      But not on #Wikipedia.
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 15:41:01 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 17:54:59 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
      in reply to
      ♻ Andrew Sullivan Cant @andrew_s_cant: Is there are link for the deleted page, to see the justification for deletion? Maybe its something we can address. ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/andrew_s_cant/status/901539335408943104
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 17:54:59 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 17:57:07 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      m♻ Andrew Sullivan Cant @andrew_s_cant: NVM I found it. Its like the deleter believed the event just did not happen to not meet the criteria ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/andrew_s_cant/status/901543565544890368
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 17:57:07 EDT permalink
    • Hallå Kitteh (clacke)'s status on Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 22:30:15 EDT Hallå Kitteh Hallå Kitteh
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman re-create it on https://everipedia.org/ ?
      Saturday, 26-Aug-2017 22:30:15 EDT permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:06:25 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • laurelrusswurm
      ♻ Laurel L. Russwurm @laurelrusswurm: That's why I contribute so little to @Wikipedia. It's not the work, it's that I've better things to do than stave off deletionist cliques. ¶ via #Twitter, because I haven't fixed the #Twitterbridge on s.russwurm.org yet… https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/901565998221979649
      Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:06:25 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:08:10 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      • laurelrusswurm
      ♻ Laurel L. Russwurm @laurelrusswurm: It's easier to tear down than create. ¶ via #Twitter https://twitter.com/laurelrusswurm/status/901571855731044362
      Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:08:10 EDT permalink
    • Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca (bobjonkmanformer)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:10:06 EDT Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
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      ♻ Silverwizard @HippyWizard: #Wikipedia #deletionists are actively stupid and pro-ignorance, it's the only explanation ¶ via #Twitter, 'cos his #Friendica instance is down https://twitter.com/HippyWizard/status/901572815668826117
      Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:10:06 EDT permalink
    • LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} (lnxw48a1)'s status on Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:24:13 EDT LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864} LinuxWalt (@lnxw48a1) {3EB165E0-5BB1-45D2-9E7D-93B31821F864}
      in reply to
      @bobjonkman Unfortunately, some people do not believe it should be easy for others to find desired information. #Deletionists == gatekeepers of public-access information.
      Sunday, 27-Aug-2017 16:24:13 EDT permalink
      Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca repeated this.
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