bobjonkman: I seem to recall there's a standard API that should be common to all the #StatusNet derivitave servers. I'm pretty sure that in its infancy Mastodon conformed to that API. But Mastodon's API expanded beyond that, and I suspect some of the common API was removed, probably around the time #OStatus was dropped from Mastodon too. But that's sheer speculation on my part. Time to upgrade my server, so I can upgrade PHP, so I can upgrade this GNUsocial instance...
bobjonkman's status on Saturday, 14-Jan-2023 16:08:16 EST
I seem to recall there's a standard API that should be common to all the #StatusNet derivitave servers. I'm pretty sure that in its infancy Mastodon conformed to that API. But Mastodon's API expanded beyond that, and I suspect some of the common API was removed, probably around the time #OStatus was dropped from Mastodon too. But that's sheer speculation on my part. Time to upgrade my server, so I can upgrade PHP, so I can upgrade this GNUsocial instance...
lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkmanformer: I'm perfectly happy that #Mastodon exists, and if it implements #ActivityPub in a future version, more power to it. And if it drops #OStatus support, well, that's what forks (or reimplementations) like #Mastodon are for. But don't blame #GNUsocial developers for not following #Mastodon's road map for the future.
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2017 21:58:46 EDT
I'm perfectly happy that #Mastodon exists, and if it implements #ActivityPub in a future version, more power to it. And if it drops #OStatus support, well, that's what forks (or reimplementations) like #Mastodon are for. But don't blame #GNUsocial developers for not following #Mastodon's road map for the future.
Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
bobjonkmanformer: The big thing that's prevented me from even trying #Mastodon is the lack of support for !Fedgroups. And that's not a wrongful implemenation of #OStatus; I believe #Fedgroups are implemented as a specific client behaviour, nothing to do with OStatus.
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2017 21:48:50 EDT
The big thing that's prevented me from even trying #Mastodon is the lack of support for !Fedgroups. And that's not a wrongful implemenation of #OStatus; I believe #Fedgroups are implemented as a specific client behaviour, nothing to do with OStatus.
bobjonkmanformer: The author's explanation of expectation of "security" or "privacy" in #Mastodon is concerning. Knowing that !OStatus provides no privacy or security at all, bolting privacy and security features onto #Mastodon isn't going to work. This is not the fault of #OStatus, nor is it a shortcoming of #GNUsocial that it doesn't implement security or privacy with #OStatus, but recognizes that constraint.
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 04-Jul-2017 18:39:15 EDT
The author's explanation of expectation of "security" or "privacy" in #Mastodon is concerning. Knowing that !OStatus provides no privacy or security at all, bolting privacy and security features onto #Mastodon isn't going to work. This is not the fault of #OStatus, nor is it a shortcoming of #GNUsocial that it doesn't implement security or privacy with #OStatus, but recognizes that constraint.
bobjonkmanformer: Is anyone collecting all these disparate #OStatus and !GNUsocial documentation items in one location? Is there one location available for collecting all these things?
bobjonkmanformer's status on Sunday, 23-Apr-2017 13:07:46 EDT
Is anyone collecting all these disparate #OStatus and !GNUsocial documentation items in one location? Is there one location available for collecting all these things?
mmn: @aral Maybe you should put a rel="me" on your website to the #OStatus profile at https://mastodon.ar.al/users/aral :] !indieweb
mmn's status on Saturday, 15-Apr-2017 04:23:25 EDT
@aral Maybe you should put a rel="me" on your website to the #OStatus profile at https://mastodon.ar.al/users/aral :] !indieweb
mmn: @bobjonkman I think we should create a Facebook group to discuss the future of #OStatus.
mmn's status on Friday, 13-Jan-2017 02:08:21 EST
@bobjonkman I think we should create a Facebook group to discuss the future of #OStatus.
bobjonkmanformer: @silverwizard Actually, both the #Mastodon software and !GNUsocial software use the #OStatus protocol, as do #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Hubzilla and others, which we on !GNUsocial call the !Fediverse (apparently folks on Friendica have another name for that federated network)
bobjonkmanformer's status on Thursday, 05-Jan-2017 13:51:57 EST
@silverwizard Actually, both the #Mastodon software and !GNUsocial software use the #OStatus protocol, as do #Diaspora, #Friendica, #Hubzilla and others, which we on !GNUsocial call the !Fediverse (apparently folks on Friendica have another name for that federated network)
bobjonkmanformer: @clacke @dtluna I want to write a personal, single-user Facebook-like app that federates with #OStatus. I'll call it #MyOFace
bobjonkmanformer's status on Thursday, 24-Nov-2016 03:24:54 EST
@clacke @dtluna I want to write a personal, single-user Facebook-like app that federates with #OStatus. I'll call it #MyOFace
bobjonkmanformer: @Maiyannah If you do write !GNUsocial to #Pumpio code consider implementing it as a plugin. While both #OStatus and #Pump use #ActivityStreams, it's my understanding those implementations are not compatible. So, rather than rewriting much of t http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1035878
bobjonkmanformer's status on Saturday, 03-Sep-2016 19:23:50 EDT
@Maiyannah If you do write !GNUsocial to #Pumpio code consider implementing it as a plugin. While both #OStatus and #Pump use #ActivityStreams, it's my understanding those implementations are not compatible. So, rather than rewriting much of t…
mmn: RT @lnxw48 Sort of off-topic, but the owner of that site was saying he might not renew hosting when that time comes. We do need to make sure such documentation for !gnusocial and related things (such as #OStatus) is available elsewhere, too.
mmn's status on Friday, 12-Feb-2016 09:39:36 EST
RT @lnxw48 Sort of off-topic, but the owner of that site was saying he might not renew hosting when that time comes. We do need to make sure such documentation for !gnusocial and related things (such as #OStatus) is available elsewhere, too.
lnxw48: Sort of off-topic, but the owner of that site was saying he might not renew hosting when that time comes. We do need to make sure such documentation for !gnusocial and related things (such as #OStatus) is available elsewhere, too.
lnxw48's status on Friday, 12-Feb-2016 07:48:36 EST
Sort of off-topic, but the owner of that site was saying he might not renew hosting when that time comes. We do need to make sure such documentation for !gnusocial and related things (such as #OStatus) is available elsewhere, too.
blog2read: Is there an !ostatus group somewere in the !gnusocial net? #ostatus cc @hiker
blog2read's status on Monday, 05-Oct-2015 06:03:26 EDT
Is there an !ostatus group somewere in the !gnusocial net? #ostatus cc @hiker
antranigv: Hmm, does #pumpio use #OStatus? is it possible to federate !gnusocial with pump.io?
antranigv's status on Friday, 22-May-2015 08:49:10 EDT
Hmm, does #pumpio use #OStatus? is it possible to federate !gnusocial with pump.io?
vinilox: @kris tu l'as dit toi même : avec les réseaux utilisant le protocole #OStatus et cette fédérat https://status.vinilox.eu/notice/3317538
vinilox's status on Tuesday, 19-May-2015 08:31:19 EDT
@kris tu l'as dit toi même : avec les réseaux utilisant le protocole #OStatus et cette fédérat…
manuel: @simsa0 We started to work on a welcome introduction about #gnusocial for new users :-) This is a kind of http://lamatriz.org/notice/21122
manuel's status on Wednesday, 08-Apr-2015 14:23:08 EDT
@simsa0 We started to work on a welcome introduction about #gnusocial for new users :-) This is a kind of …
mmn: RT @manuel This is how !gs !gnusocial now works An #OStatus server produces an #Atom feed of status-update messages, which are pushed to
mmn's status on Wednesday, 08-Apr-2015 11:28:04 EDT
RT @manuel This is how !gs !gnusocial now works An #OStatus server produces an #Atom feed of status-update messages, which are pushed to…
manuel: This is how !gs !gnusocial now works An #OStatus server produces an #Atom feed of status-update messages http://lamatriz.org/notice/20080
manuel's status on Monday, 06-Apr-2015 20:21:31 EDT
This is how !gs !gnusocial now works An #OStatus server produces an #Atom feed of status-update messages…
manuel: @voylinux Buenísimo! La fuente con más info sobre #GNUsocial que he encontrado es http://s.vinilox.eu/ http://lamatriz.org/notice/18259
manuel's status on Thursday, 02-Apr-2015 06:21:49 EDT
@voylinux Buenísimo! La fuente con más info sobre #GNUsocial que he encontrado es http://s.vinilox.eu/…
manuel: ¿Es #OStatus la clave para la interoperabilidad entre proyectos de software para redes sociales? Cuanto m http://lamatriz.org/notice/17835
manuel's status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2015 15:58:31 EDT
¿Es #OStatus la clave para la interoperabilidad entre proyectos de software para redes sociales? Cuanto m…
manuel: [es] Únete al grupo !gscamp para estar al día sobre la organización de GNU social Camp 2015 Dos dí https://lamatriz.org/notice/17641
manuel's status on Tuesday, 31-Mar-2015 11:47:14 EDT
[es] Únete al grupo !gscamp para estar al día sobre la organización de GNU social Camp 2015 Dos dí…
manuel: @nosolosw @david @lasindias @voylinux @litox @lamatriz Los desarrolladores iniciales, la gente de identica http://lamatriz.org/notice/17281
manuel's status on Monday, 30-Mar-2015 08:44:11 EDT
@nosolosw @david @lasindias @voylinux @litox @lamatriz Los desarrolladores iniciales, la gente de identica…
lnxw48: @manuel @david I think #gnusocial would be better if unspecified assumptions were discovered and s https://fresh.federati.net/notice/203237
lnxw48's status on Friday, 06-Mar-2015 22:27:05 EST
@manuel @david I think #gnusocial would be better if unspecified assumptions were discovered and s…
aroque: My favorite !gnusocial use case is actually that of self-hosted semi-private instances: a bunch friends s https://gnusocial.no/notice/87259
aroque's status on Friday, 20-Feb-2015 03:36:07 EST
My favorite !gnusocial use case is actually that of self-hosted semi-private instances: a bunch friends s…
groupie's status on Friday, 06-Feb-2015 06:07:28 EST
cc !ostatus !gs !gnusocial
erkan: does this help: "OAuth authentication" from the !gnusocial api http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Twitter-compatible_API cc !gs !ostatus
erkan's status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2015 13:28:57 EST
does this help: "OAuth authentication" from the !gnusocial api http://skilledtests.com/wiki/Twitter-compatible_API cc !gs !ostatus
mmn: @hiker Just try running it for any other #OStatus profile out there. Probably won't give a good result.
mmn's status on Thursday, 05-Feb-2015 08:17:18 EST
@hiker Just try running it for any other #OStatus profile out there. Probably won't give a good result.
erkan: how do you recognize this? cc !ostatus !gs !gnusocial
erkan's status on Tuesday, 20-Jan-2015 16:45:53 EST
how do you recognize this? cc !ostatus !gs !gnusocial
lnxw48: @nawi This is a great time. The network of !gnusocial / !sn / #rstatus / other #ostatus servers n https://fresh.federati.net/notice/171188
lnxw48's status on Friday, 16-Jan-2015 14:50:00 EST
@nawi This is a great time. The network of !gnusocial / !sn / #rstatus / other #ostatus servers n…
erkan's status on Sunday, 23-Nov-2014 23:55:32 EST
lnxw48: @mmn @aqeel That’s wonderful news. I was thinking of forking #Dispersion (which is currently an https://fresh.federati.net/notice/143058
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 19-Nov-2014 12:21:44 EST
@mmn @aqeel That’s wonderful news. I was thinking of forking #Dispersion (which is currently an…
lnxw48: @kris What results do you get when you test your #OStatus? http://url.federati.net/HlEnq
lnxw48's status on Tuesday, 11-Nov-2014 17:36:04 EST
@kris What results do you get when you test your #OStatus? http://url.federati.net/HlEnq
mmn: Does this dinner have an #OStatus account? I'd like to follow its wisdom.
mmn's status on Sunday, 09-Nov-2014 03:36:30 EST
Does this dinner have an #OStatus account? I'd like to follow its wisdom.
mmn: @mcscx Yes, having only one API is a very good design imho. But I still want #OStatus federarion apart from that .)
mmn's status on Friday, 08-Aug-2014 05:27:52 EDT
@mcscx Yes, having only one API is a very good design imho. But I still want #OStatus federarion apart from that .)
windigo: @marxistvegan There's a couple stalwart devs working on GNU/Social, but I'm not sure how much they're contributing to #ostatus itself...
windigo's status on Friday, 25-Apr-2014 14:48:31 EDT
@marxistvegan There's a couple stalwart devs working on GNU/Social, but I'm not sure how much they're contributing to #ostatus itself...
hs0ucy: It exists a lightweight+minimalist #ostatus application? !sn !gnusocial !vivalafederation
hs0ucy's status on Wednesday, 19-Mar-2014 08:30:45 EDT
It exists a lightweight+minimalist #ostatus application? !sn !gnusocial !vivalafederation
hs0ucy: Quoi, les instances #pumpio ne peuvent pas être fédérées avec celles de #statusnet? Ai-je bien compris? #OStatus
hs0ucy's status on Saturday, 13-Jul-2013 11:16:15 EDT
Quoi, les instances #pumpio ne peuvent pas être fédérées avec celles de #statusnet? Ai-je bien compris? #OStatus
maiki: As I've told you, I once had the #OStatus meta-plugin running in #WordPress, which syndicated to a #StatusNet https://denot.es/notice/10034
maiki's status on Saturday, 08-Jun-2013 21:46:31 EDT
As I've told you, I once had the #OStatus meta-plugin running in #WordPress, which syndicated to a #StatusNet…