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: Simple hashtag proposal for dates: datetags for the #indiewebIn summary by example:* #2026_08_04 ISO8601 YYYY_MM_DD date of this post* #2026_216 ISO8601 YYYY_DDD ordinal date of this post* #2026_08 ISO8601 YYYY_MM month of this postMany of us posting on the indieweb often post about things in the past. Photos, events, or sometimes throwback posts. Hashtags communicate and aggregate what posts are about. Posts about the past are usually about a specific date in the past, or sometimes an entire month. Thus it makes sense to use hashtags for those dates and months.I have been hashtagging such posts about the past for several years, and with some iteration have developed a convention that works for international readability, and is linked and indexed in #federated #hashtag systems like #ActivityPub (#Mastodon etc.).Examples of posts 10 years ago and this past week that use datetags:* https://tantek.com/2016/153/t4/june — monthtag and datetag* https://tantek.com/2026/215/t1/watched-odyssey-metreon-70mm-imax — normal and ordinal ISO8601 dates.Additional possibilities to explore:* yeartags — hashtags for entire years* timetags — hashtags for specific times, undated/floating timesAfter several web searches I didn’t find any prior proposals for hashtags for dates or times. Hopefully by hashtagging this post, future web searches will find this proposal.Have you hashtagged your posts with dates or times? Share your examples!This is post 11 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts#dateTag #dateTags #monthTag #monthTags #yearTag #yearTags #timeTag #timeTags#August #Blaugust #Blaugust2026← https://tantek.com/2026/214/t2/watch-posts-movie-tv-emoji→ 🔮
's status on Tuesday, 04-Aug-2026 21:00:00 EDT
Simple hashtag proposal for dates: datetags for the #indieweb In summary by example: * #2026_08_04 ISO8601 YYYY_MM_DD date of this post * #2026_216 ISO8601 YYYY_DDD ordinal date of this post * #2026_08 ISO8601 YYYY_MM month of this post Many of us posting on the indieweb often post about things in the past. Photos, events, or sometimes throwback posts. Hashtags communicate and aggregate what posts are about. Posts about the past are usually about a specific date in the past, or sometimes an entire month. Thus it makes sense to use hashtags for those dates and months. I have been hashtagging such posts about the past for several years, and with some iteration have developed a convention that works for international readability, and is linked and indexed in #federated #hashtag systems like #ActivityPub (#Mastodon etc.). Examples of posts 10 years ago and this past week that use datetags: * https://tantek.com/2016/153/t4/june — monthtag and datetag * https://tantek.com/2026/215/t1/watched-odyssey-metreon-70mm-imax — normal and ordinal ISO8601 dates. Additional possibilities to explore: * yeartags — hashtags for entire years * timetags — hashtags for specific times, undated/floating times After several web searches I didn’t find any prior proposals for hashtags for dates or times. Hopefully by hashtagging this post, future web searches will find this proposal. Have you hashtagged your posts with dates or times? Share your examples! This is post 11 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts #dateTag #dateTags #monthTag #monthTags #yearTag #yearTags #timeTag #timeTags #August #Blaugust #Blaugust2026 ← https://tantek.com/2026/214/t2/watch-posts-movie-tv-emoji → 🔮
: I felt the #earthquake here in #SanFrancisco. A single quick sharp jolt with rapid decay, duration less than 2s, meaning it was relatively nearby and small in magnitudeI was about to say, perhaps #earthquakes are the last use-case for #Twitter because yes I reflexively checked it and did see posts about it from folks, including a few friends.Then I checked https://indieweb.social/tags/earthquake and it has plenty of recent #fediverse posts about the earthquake, several @sfba.social.Feels like something big has shifted. The #federated #IndieWeb has replaced another #socialMedia silo use-case.This is post 7 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts← https://tantek.com/2024/027/t1/indieweb-ideals-systems-swappable→ 🔮Post glossary:silo https://indieweb.org/silosocial media https://indieweb.org/social_mediause-case https://indieweb.org/use_case
's status on Friday, 02-Feb-2024 16:49:00 EST
I felt the #earthquake here in #SanFrancisco. A single quick sharp jolt with rapid decay, duration less than 2s, meaning it was relatively nearby and small in magnitude I was about to say, perhaps #earthquakes are the last use-case for #Twitter because yes I reflexively checked it and did see posts about it from folks, including a few friends. Then I checked https://indieweb.social/tags/earthquake and it has plenty of recent #fediverse posts about the earthquake, several @sfba.social. Feels like something big has shifted. The #federated #IndieWeb has replaced another #socialMedia silo use-case. This is post 7 of #100PostsOfIndieWeb. #100Posts ← https://tantek.com/2024/027/t1/indieweb-ideals-systems-swappable → 🔮 Post glossary: silo https://indieweb.org/silo social media https://indieweb.org/social_media use-case https://indieweb.org/use_case
: Great article on #POSSE by David Pierce (@davidpierce@mastodon.social @pierce) @Verge:https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928550/posse-posting-activitypub-standard-twitter-tumblr-mastodonSeveral key points of POSSE explained in the article:First, post on your own site: “In a POSSE world, everybody owns a domain name, and everybody has a blog. (… a place on the internet where you post your stuff and others consume it.)” Second, syndicate elsewhere, appropriately for each destination: “Then, your long blog post might be broken into chunks and posted as a thread on X and Mastodon and Threads. The whole thing might go to your Medium page and your Tumblr and your LinkedIn profile, too. If you post a photo, it might go straight to Instagram, and a vertical video would whoosh straight to TikTok, Reels, and Shorts. Your post appears natively on all of those platforms,”You can use Bridgy Publish (https://brid.gy/) to POSSE to many destinations, and Bridgy Fed (https://fed.brid.gy/) to #federate to #Mastodon and other #fediverse destinations, directly from your site instead of posting a copy on yet another account on yet another server.Third, and this is a key piece that distinguishes proper POSSE setups, with original post perma(short)links back to your posts on your domain: “typically with some kind of link back to your blog.” All copies link to (your) home. "And your blog becomes the hub for everything, your main home on the internet." You have power over your domain (name), not outside silos.David embedded a screenshot of one of my posts, a reply post:in which I posted a reply *on my own site*¹ to @Zeldman.com’s tweet (itself a reply to a POSSE copy of one of my posts), and POSSEd my reply to Twitter so it would thread with his reply.This illustrates another important detail of a proper POSSE setup:Fourth, post *replies* and other responses from your own site, whether to other #IndieWeb sites, or to others’s silo posts (tweets etc.).Own your data means owning your replies as well.David also noted several challenges and good questions about POSSE. Some of these have answers & established practices, others are areas of exploration. E.g. "The first is the social side of social media: what do you do with all the likes, replies, comments, and everything else that comes with your posts?" The short answer is #backfeed: https://indieweb.org/backfeedBackfeed is a concept I first wrote about as “reverse syndication”². As you syndicate your posts out to #socialMedia silos, you reverse syndicate any responses there back to your original post. Your site can do this with a service like #Bridgy, which uses the #Webmention standard to forward such silo responses back to your site, and #BridgyFed which does same for responses from Mastodon to your #federated posts.David asked many other questions, which are deserving of their own posts to help answer, so I’ll leave you with just one more: "The most immediate question, though, is simply how to build a POSSE system that works."The short answer is: just start³.Even if you have to do it manually (until it hurts), even if you have to edit your posts on a static GitHub site (behind your domain name of course), and then copy & paste to your silo(s) of choice, just start.By practicing POSSE, even manually, you will learn what aspects of POSSE & backfeed matter the most to you, what aspects actually involve reaching & responding to friends and others you care about. By doing so you will naturally focus on setting up & making what you need, and you too can join the future of web publishing, today.Questions? Join us in the chat: https://chat.indieweb.org/ (also on Discord, IRC, and Slack⁴)This is day 46 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days← Day 45: https://tantek.com/2023/289/t1/bridgyfed-webmention-like-fediverse→ 🔮Post glossary:backfeed / reverse syndication https://indieweb.org/backfeedBridgy https://brid.gy/make what you need https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_needmanual (until it hurts) https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurtsoriginal post link https://indieweb.org/original_post_linkown your data https://indieweb.org/own_your_dataown your replies https://indieweb.org/own_your_repliespermalink https://indieweb.org/permalinkpermashortlink https://indieweb.org/permashortlinkPOSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSEsilo https://indieweb.org/silosocial media https://indieweb.org/social_mediastatic site https://indieweb.org/static_sitestart https://indieweb.org/startWebmention https://indieweb.org/Webmention¹ https://tantek.com/2023/253/t2/² https://tantek.com/2010/034/t2/diso-2-personal-domains-shortener-hatom-push-relmeauth³ https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes⁴ https://indieweb.org/discuss
's status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 20:30:00 EDT
Great article on #POSSE by David Pierce (@davidpierce@mastodon.social @pierce) @Verge: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/23/23928550/posse-posting-activitypub-standard-twitter-tumblr-mastodon Several key points of POSSE explained in the article: First, post on your own site: “In a POSSE world, everybody owns a domain name, and everybody has a blog. (… a place on the internet where you post your stuff and others consume it.)” Second, syndicate elsewhere, appropriately for each destination: “Then, your long blog post might be broken into chunks and posted as a thread on X and Mastodon and Threads. The whole thing might go to your Medium page and your Tumblr and your LinkedIn profile, too. If you post a photo, it might go straight to Instagram, and a vertical video would whoosh straight to TikTok, Reels, and Shorts. Your post appears natively on all of those platforms,” You can use Bridgy Publish (https://brid.gy/) to POSSE to many destinations, and Bridgy Fed (https://fed.brid.gy/) to #federate to #Mastodon and other #fediverse destinations, directly from your site instead of posting a copy on yet another account on yet another server. Third, and this is a key piece that distinguishes proper POSSE setups, with original post perma(short)links back to your posts on your domain: “typically with some kind of link back to your blog.” All copies link to (your) home. "And your blog becomes the hub for everything, your main home on the internet." You have power over your domain (name), not outside silos. David embedded a screenshot of one of my posts, a reply post: in which I posted a reply *on my own site*¹ to @Zeldman.com’s tweet (itself a reply to a POSSE copy of one of my posts), and POSSEd my reply to Twitter so it would thread with his reply. This illustrates another important detail of a proper POSSE setup: Fourth, post *replies* and other responses from your own site, whether to other #IndieWeb sites, or to others’s silo posts (tweets etc.). Own your data means owning your replies as well. David also noted several challenges and good questions about POSSE. Some of these have answers & established practices, others are areas of exploration. E.g. "The first is the social side of social media: what do you do with all the likes, replies, comments, and everything else that comes with your posts?" The short answer is #backfeed: https://indieweb.org/backfeed Backfeed is a concept I first wrote about as “reverse syndication”². As you syndicate your posts out to #socialMedia silos, you reverse syndicate any responses there back to your original post. Your site can do this with a service like #Bridgy, which uses the #Webmention standard to forward such silo responses back to your site, and #BridgyFed which does same for responses from Mastodon to your #federated posts. David asked many other questions, which are deserving of their own posts to help answer, so I’ll leave you with just one more: "The most immediate question, though, is simply how to build a POSSE system that works." The short answer is: just start³. Even if you have to do it manually (until it hurts), even if you have to edit your posts on a static GitHub site (behind your domain name of course), and then copy & paste to your silo(s) of choice, just start. By practicing POSSE, even manually, you will learn what aspects of POSSE & backfeed matter the most to you, what aspects actually involve reaching & responding to friends and others you care about. By doing so you will naturally focus on setting up & making what you need, and you too can join the future of web publishing, today. Questions? Join us in the chat: https://chat.indieweb.org/ (also on Discord, IRC, and Slack⁴) This is day 46 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days ← Day 45: https://tantek.com/2023/289/t1/bridgyfed-webmention-like-fediverse → 🔮 Post glossary: backfeed / reverse syndication https://indieweb.org/backfeed Bridgy https://brid.gy/ make what you need https://indieweb.org/make_what_you_need manual (until it hurts) https://indieweb.org/manual_until_it_hurts original post link https://indieweb.org/original_post_link own your data https://indieweb.org/own_your_data own your replies https://indieweb.org/own_your_replies permalink https://indieweb.org/permalink permashortlink https://indieweb.org/permashortlink POSSE https://indieweb.org/POSSE silo https://indieweb.org/silo social media https://indieweb.org/social_media static site https://indieweb.org/static_site start https://indieweb.org/start Webmention https://indieweb.org/Webmention ¹ https://tantek.com/2023/253/t2/ ² https://tantek.com/2010/034/t2/diso-2-personal-domains-shortener-hatom-push-relmeauth ³ https://tantek.com/2023/001/t1/own-your-notes ⁴ https://indieweb.org/discuss
: Implemented liking/favoriting of #Mastodon posts via Bridgy Fed on my site! (Actually of any post on any site that #BridgyFed can discover an #ActivityPub endpoint to send likes to.)Tested it by liking @evanp.me (@evan@cosocial.ca @evanpro)’s reply¹ confirming that he received a notification from my prior post². I sent a #Webmention from my like post³ to Bridgy Fed, and it #federated the like to Evan’s server, which subsequently showed up in the "favourites" list of Evan’s post:https://cosocial.ca/@evan/111237962392745000/favouritesEvery step that connects heterogenous #socialWeb systems & protocols feels like progress.This is day 45 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #IndieWeb #like #likes #fediverse #favorite #favourite #favourites← Day 44: https://tantek.com/2023/234/t1/threads-supports-indieweb-rel-me→ 🔮¹ https://cosocial.ca/@evan/111237962392745000² https://tantek.com/2023/287/t1/federating-mentions³ https://tantek.com/2023/289/f1
's status on Monday, 16-Oct-2023 21:16:00 EDT
Implemented liking/favoriting of #Mastodon posts via Bridgy Fed on my site! (Actually of any post on any site that #BridgyFed can discover an #ActivityPub endpoint to send likes to.) Tested it by liking @evanp.me (@evan@cosocial.ca @evanpro)’s reply¹ confirming that he received a notification from my prior post². I sent a #Webmention from my like post³ to Bridgy Fed, and it #federated the like to Evan’s server, which subsequently showed up in the "favourites" list of Evan’s post: https://cosocial.ca/@evan/111237962392745000/favourites Every step that connects heterogenous #socialWeb systems & protocols feels like progress. This is day 45 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #IndieWeb #like #likes #fediverse #favorite #favourite #favourites ← Day 44: https://tantek.com/2023/234/t1/threads-supports-indieweb-rel-me → 🔮 ¹ https://cosocial.ca/@evan/111237962392745000 ² https://tantek.com/2023/287/t1/federating-mentions ³ https://tantek.com/2023/289/f1
: 10 years ago today the first #federated #IndieWeb comment thread was published and collected peer-to-peer IndieWeb replies across websites without any intermediary, silo or otherwise¹.2013-04-19 @eschnou.com posted a brief note on his personal site with #atMentions of a few domains (putting an '@' sign immediately before a domain name to indicate an explicit cross-web @-mention), which itself was also a first² "Testing #indieweb federation with @waterpigs.co.uk, @aaronparecki.com and @indiewebcamp.com !"When @aaronpk.com was notified and replied from his site within minutes³, it became the first peer-to-peer federated IndieWeb comment thread, at the time using h-entry and Pingback. I blogged about it a few days later⁴.Earlier this year I blogged more observations of all the user interactions that happened on that day and shortly thereafter to make this all work: https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmentionUnfortunately Laurent Eschnou’s original post is no longer up, and we only have the Internet Archive copy. However most of the IndieWeb reply posts are still up including Barnaby’s: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1334/The oldest still working federated post and comment thread was second overall, unsurprisingly from @aaronparecki.com⁵, a whole 40 days after Laurent’s first.This is day 37 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse← Day 36: https://tantek.com/2023/100/t1/auto-linked-hashtags-federated→ 🔮Glossaryfederation https://indieweb.org/federationh-entry https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entryPingback https://indieweb.org/Pingbackreply post https://indieweb.org/replyReferences¹ https://web.archive.org/web/20130427010301/http://eschnou.com/entry/testing-indieweb-federation-with-waterpigscouk-aaronpareckicom-and--62-24908.html² https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention³ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/04/19/3/indieweb⁴ https://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread⁵ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/05/21/4/xkcd
's status on Wednesday, 19-Apr-2023 20:48:00 EDT
10 years ago today the first #federated #IndieWeb comment thread was published and collected peer-to-peer IndieWeb replies across websites without any intermediary, silo or otherwise¹. 2013-04-19 @eschnou.com posted a brief note on his personal site with #atMentions of a few domains (putting an '@' sign immediately before a domain name to indicate an explicit cross-web @-mention), which itself was also a first² "Testing #indieweb federation with @waterpigs.co.uk, @aaronparecki.com and @indiewebcamp.com !" When @aaronpk.com was notified and replied from his site within minutes³, it became the first peer-to-peer federated IndieWeb comment thread, at the time using h-entry and Pingback. I blogged about it a few days later⁴. Earlier this year I blogged more observations of all the user interactions that happened on that day and shortly thereafter to make this all work: https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention Unfortunately Laurent Eschnou’s original post is no longer up, and we only have the Internet Archive copy. However most of the IndieWeb reply posts are still up including Barnaby’s: https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1334/ The oldest still working federated post and comment thread was second overall, unsurprisingly from @aaronparecki.com⁵, a whole 40 days after Laurent’s first. This is day 37 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb. #100Days #OpenWeb #federation #fediverse ← Day 36: https://tantek.com/2023/100/t1/auto-linked-hashtags-federated → 🔮 Glossary federation https://indieweb.org/federation h-entry https://microformats.org/wiki/h-entry Pingback https://indieweb.org/Pingback reply post https://indieweb.org/reply References ¹ https://web.archive.org/web/20130427010301/http://eschnou.com/entry/testing-indieweb-federation-with-waterpigscouk-aaronpareckicom-and--62-24908.html ² https://tantek.com/2023/014/t4/domain-first-federated-atmention ³ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/04/19/3/indieweb ⁴ https://tantek.com/2013/113/b1/first-federated-indieweb-comment-thread ⁵ https://aaronparecki.com/2013/05/21/4/xkcd
: Previously^1 I asked "How should we @ someone [on the #IndieWeb]?" & suggested we use @-domain. With some web spelunking, the earliest such use I found was 2013-03-26 (~10y ago!) by @eschnou.com, maybe^2 the first #siteToSite #federated #atMention! "And my first ever #indieweb pingback goes to @tantek.com, @aaronparecki.com and @waterpigs.co.uk ! Yes, I can now federate... well.. if I can manage to get it to interop :-)"Though the original post disappeared in a site update (and was unarchived), you can see it on the Internet Archive of @eschnou.com’s #IndieWeb tag page: https://web.archive.org/web/20130609045145/http://eschnou.com/tag/indieweb#2013Mar26At the time, Barnaby (@waterpigs.co.uk) did confirm receiving that @-mention on his site via Pingback (this was before Webmention was a thing^3): https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1199/ (https://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters/status/316664943820812289)@eschnou.com also asked in the IndieWeb chat if @aaronparecki.com had gotten his @-domain mention: https://chat.indieweb.org/2013-03-26#t1364333721000000 You can see at the bottom of that chat log that he did.I myself started using @-domain in my posts ~4 years later in a 2017 reply: https://tantek.com/2017/345/t1/aaronpk-paid-thanks (https://twitter.com/t/status/940382393097228288) though only when the same person controlled the domain and the Twitter @-name of the first part of the domain name before the "." (which was/is not many people. Workaround: use other @-domain mentions in posts after the POSSE tweet cut-off).I think that was my earliest use because two days after that post I added @-domain auto-linking to the https://tantek.com/github/cassis (@cassisjs) "auto_link" function https://github.com/tantek/cassis/commit/0e8e6270c0a3b600423c283f59b5d22c3648d59a (https://twitter.com/cassisjs/status/941107922318381057), likely having already tested it in production on my own site with that post.I’m still #testingInProduction the updates noted in ^3, notably "https:" for all @-mentions (@-name @-domain @-@) and hope to merge them into the repo soon. Aside: both that and the #testInProduction hashtag have hilarious Twitter results^4.Does anyone know of any other auto-linkers that support linking @-domain in plain text to an https URL of that domain? Extra internet points if they also support @-@ auto-linking.This is day 14 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days.← Day 13: https://tantek.com/2023/013/t1/indieweb-home-internet→ 🔮^1 Day 11: https://tantek.com/2023/011/t1/indieweb-evolving-at-mention^2 I’m curious if StatusNet, OStatus, or OpenMicroBlogging had an explicit syntax for site-to-site @-mentions, whether any of them resembled @-domain, and is there evidence of their earliest @-mention usage (if any) still visible on the web (or Internet Archive) cc: @evanp.me (@evan@prodromou.pub)^3 https://tantek.com/2023/012/t1/six-years-webmention-w3c^4 Navigating to Twitter hashtag results left as an exercise to the reader, to provide a deliberate soft barrier to a potential doomscrolling trap.
's status on Sunday, 15-Jan-2023 02:50:00 EST
Previously^1 I asked "How should we @ someone [on the #IndieWeb]?" & suggested we use @-domain. With some web spelunking, the earliest such use I found was 2013-03-26 (~10y ago!) by @eschnou.com, maybe^2 the first #siteToSite #federated #atMention! "And my first ever #indieweb pingback goes to @tantek.com, @aaronparecki.com and @waterpigs.co.uk ! Yes, I can now federate... well.. if I can manage to get it to interop :-)" Though the original post disappeared in a site update (and was unarchived), you can see it on the Internet Archive of @eschnou.com’s #IndieWeb tag page: https://web.archive.org/web/20130609045145/http://eschnou.com/tag/indieweb#2013Mar26 At the time, Barnaby (@waterpigs.co.uk) did confirm receiving that @-mention on his site via Pingback (this was before Webmention was a thing^3): https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1199/ (https://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters/status/316664943820812289) @eschnou.com also asked in the IndieWeb chat if @aaronparecki.com had gotten his @-domain mention: https://chat.indieweb.org/2013-03-26#t1364333721000000 You can see at the bottom of that chat log that he did. I myself started using @-domain in my posts ~4 years later in a 2017 reply: https://tantek.com/2017/345/t1/aaronpk-paid-thanks (https://twitter.com/t/status/940382393097228288) though only when the same person controlled the domain and the Twitter @-name of the first part of the domain name before the "." (which was/is not many people. Workaround: use other @-domain mentions in posts after the POSSE tweet cut-off). I think that was my earliest use because two days after that post I added @-domain auto-linking to the https://tantek.com/github/cassis (@cassisjs) "auto_link" function https://github.com/tantek/cassis/commit/0e8e6270c0a3b600423c283f59b5d22c3648d59a (https://twitter.com/cassisjs/status/941107922318381057), likely having already tested it in production on my own site with that post. I’m still #testingInProduction the updates noted in ^3, notably "https:" for all @-mentions (@-name @-domain @-@) and hope to merge them into the repo soon. Aside: both that and the #testInProduction hashtag have hilarious Twitter results^4. Does anyone know of any other auto-linkers that support linking @-domain in plain text to an https URL of that domain? Extra internet points if they also support @-@ auto-linking. This is day 14 of #100DaysOfIndieWeb #100Days. ← Day 13: https://tantek.com/2023/013/t1/indieweb-home-internet → 🔮 ^1 Day 11: https://tantek.com/2023/011/t1/indieweb-evolving-at-mention ^2 I’m curious if StatusNet, OStatus, or OpenMicroBlogging had an explicit syntax for site-to-site @-mentions, whether any of them resembled @-domain, and is there evidence of their earliest @-mention usage (if any) still visible on the web (or Internet Archive) cc: @evanp.me (@evan@prodromou.pub) ^3 https://tantek.com/2023/012/t1/six-years-webmention-w3c ^4 Navigating to Twitter hashtag results left as an exercise to the reader, to provide a deliberate soft barrier to a potential doomscrolling trap.
lnxw48a1: https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
lnxw48a1's status on Wednesday, 28-Dec-2022 21:20:57 EST
https://500ish.com/mastodon-brought-a-protocol-to-a-product-fight-ba9fda767c6a #Medium link; don't be surprised if it does weird things before showing you the article. "Mastodon brought a protocol to a product fight" > Yes, yes, the network is under immense strain as people flee the Elon strain infecting Twitter. But come on, there are folks who really believe this is going to replace, or even stand alongside Twitter, as a massively scaled social network? I call bullshit. While it’s impressive that millions of users have apparently given Mastodon a try, the product is far too slapdash and clunky to keep folks engaged. A lump of coal. No, it isn't meant to be a #Twitter replacement. Keep your Twitter account until you no longer want it--or the company closes and the site shuts down--you can use Mastodon alongside Twitter. And the #Fediverse networks are much more than just #Mastodon. Don't think you have experienced the network and all it has to offer if all you've done is briefly tried to use Mastodon, because you haven't experienced it. > I’ve somehow avoided signing up for the service up until now. Largely because signing up was and is so comically obtuse — pick your server everyone, hope you choose wisely! Have you not used e-mail? It works the same way. You pick a server, such as Gmail or Outlook dot com, and sign up. Please tell me you realize that the people you communicate with are not all on the same e-mail service that you use. > But, but, it’s not a product, it’s a protocol. Yeah, that’s a nice thing to say. And to believe in. But I truly believe the ship has sadly sailed for such idealism in this space. Jack Dorsey can talk about how this should have been what Twitter was from the get go until he’s bluesky in the face. It’s just not going to happen. And he’s more to blame for that than most everyone else. As is he for the Elon element of this current equation. But that’s a different story. Okay, so how about this story: Twitter has only been profitable two or three years of its entire history. Since it started, it has existed by burning through investors' funds. Eventually, with or without Elon Musk's ownership, that runs out. Without such funding, their corporate-centralized ( #corpocentric ) model cannot exist very long. And same for their centralized competitors, such as Post.news, Gab, Parler, and so on. What is left is either #federated or #peer-to-peer approaches, where no single entity is responsible for funding and managing the entire network. So whether it is the #Fediverse ( with #ActivityPub and #OStatus and their successors ) & the Federation ( with #Diaspora ) or #Bluesky, or #Twister, or #NOSTR, the eventual future of #socnets is #decentralized, if not entirely peer-to-peer unless a national government takes over Facebook and Twitter in order to provide effectively unlimited resources. It is the protocol that makes it possible for thousands or millions of instances to displace and replace one big centralized instance. 1/2
bobjonkman: I've never played #Minecraft - Is this #Federated software? Is it #FreeSoftware? If so, how can Microsoft control what's happening on someone's private server? Even if such code existed in a #FreeSoftware application, I would have thought there'd be a fork that eliminates that external control. It's time for that now. But if #Minecraft isn't #FreeSoftware aka Free/Libre Open Source Software, then I really have no sympathies for people running or using it...
bobjonkman's status on Sunday, 26-Jun-2022 18:52:29 EDT
I've never played #Minecraft - Is this #Federated software? Is it #FreeSoftware? If so, how can Microsoft control what's happening on someone's private server? Even if such code existed in a #FreeSoftware application, I would have thought there'd be a fork that eliminates that external control. It's time for that now. But if #Minecraft isn't #FreeSoftware aka Free/Libre Open Source Software, then I really have no sympathies for people running or using it...
bobjonkmanformer: The HN discussion perpetuates the usual misunderstanding of a #Federated network. People claim they must have accounts on multiple instances in order to follow conversations there. But a person really needs only one account on one instance because they can follow accounts on other instances *because Federation*! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14157801
bobjonkmanformer's status on Thursday, 20-Apr-2017 23:20:15 EDT
The HN discussion perpetuates the usual misunderstanding of a #Federated network. People claim they must have accounts on multiple instances in order to follow conversations there. But a person really needs only one account on one instance because they can follow accounts on other instances *because Federation*! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14157801
Former Bob Jonkman -- Please use the new server at https://gs.jonkman.ca
mcscx: @jaideneverett Welcome :) !GNUsocial is like Twitter, but #non-commercial and #federated. The servers are run by hobbyists and #activists
mcscx's status on Saturday, 24-Oct-2015 08:32:40 EDT
@jaideneverett Welcome :) !GNUsocial is like Twitter, but #non-commercial and #federated. The servers are run by hobbyists and #activists
lnxw48: Welcome @geniusmusing to the !fediverse. GM is an active user of another #federated network and is now joining !gnusocial as well.
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 18-Oct-2015 18:42:58 EDT
Welcome @geniusmusing to the !fediverse. GM is an active user of another #federated network and is now joining !gnusocial as well.
bobjonkmanformer: Another #Federated #secure messaging tool: https://ring.cx/ Anyone tried this yet?
bobjonkmanformer's status on Saturday, 10-Oct-2015 13:59:17 EDT
Another #Federated #secure messaging tool: https://ring.cx/ Anyone tried this yet?
mcscx: @deavmi afaik the #deleted posts are a new !gnusocial feature for #federated deleting
mcscx's status on Sunday, 02-Aug-2015 16:36:24 EDT
@deavmi afaik the #deleted posts are a new !gnusocial feature for #federated deleting
bobjonkmanformer: Of course, I dread the day that someone takes jonkman.ca Can't !selfhost Domain Name Services -- we need http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/901592
bobjonkmanformer's status on Tuesday, 23-Jun-2015 21:22:57 EDT
Of course, I dread the day that someone takes jonkman.ca Can't !selfhost Domain Name Services -- we need…
lnxw48: @moshpirit !gnusocial has a small team of volunteers doing the development, much like !friendica, https://fresh.federati.net/notice/238739
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 24-May-2015 15:38:51 EDT
@moshpirit !gnusocial has a small team of volunteers doing the development, much like !friendica, …
lnxw48: @moshpirit What do you think about the #newhere tag, as used on !Diaspora? If it helps people inte https://fresh.federati.net/notice/215960
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 05-Apr-2015 17:41:10 EDT
@moshpirit What do you think about the #newhere tag, as used on !Diaspora? If it helps people inte…
lnxw48: @mcscx @aroque @roelofpieter #federated deletion can be troublesome because someone else may contr https://fresh.federati.net/notice/215354
lnxw48's status on Saturday, 04-Apr-2015 13:00:07 EDT
@mcscx @aroque @roelofpieter #federated deletion can be troublesome because someone else may contr…
lnxw48: I love this !sn / !gnusocial network. Nowhere else have I seen such heated disagreements as we've https://fresh.federati.net/notice/214184
lnxw48's status on Wednesday, 01-Apr-2015 23:29:10 EDT
I love this !sn / !gnusocial network. Nowhere else have I seen such heated disagreements as we've …
roland: I copy that. :-) :-) :-) A #social, #federated code #repository platform ... I wonder if we can m https://social.mxchange.org/notice/130621
roland's status on Friday, 06-Mar-2015 11:08:46 EST
I copy that. :-) :-) :-) A #social, #federated code #repository platform ... I wonder if we can m…
lnxw48: @roland Yes, and also to any other #federated network. I hate seeing all the JS that Evan's #PumpI https://fresh.federati.net/notice/200171
lnxw48's status on Saturday, 28-Feb-2015 20:17:16 EST
@roland Yes, and also to any other #federated network. I hate seeing all the JS that Evan's #PumpI…
lnxw48: @marcus Other than promoting the use of the #newhere tag (and encouraging people to monitor the ta https://fresh.federati.net/notice/189971
lnxw48's status on Tuesday, 10-Feb-2015 11:51:22 EST
@marcus Other than promoting the use of the #newhere tag (and encouraging people to monitor the ta…
lnxw48: It is important to realize that centralized #socnets‘ userbases do not prevent some of those use https://fresh.federati.net/notice/188774
lnxw48's status on Sunday, 08-Feb-2015 19:11:04 EST
It is important to realize that centralized #socnets‘ userbases do not prevent some of those use…
roland: As !gnusocial is #federated there is no central part of it. You can only report it your instance' https://social.mxchange.org/notice/83725
roland's status on Sunday, 18-Jan-2015 08:21:39 EST
As !gnusocial is #federated there is no central part of it. You can only report it your instance' …
bobjonkmanformer: @pskosinski Why, another #federated server in the !Fediverse, of course!
bobjonkmanformer's status on Friday, 05-Dec-2014 19:00:01 EST
@pskosinski Why, another #federated server in the !Fediverse, of course!
jofazepa: A #federated social web? and the #GNUsocial project at #FSCONS 2014 https://frab.fscons.org/en/fscon https://loadaverage.org/notice/4764568
jofazepa's status on Saturday, 11-Oct-2014 08:53:20 EDT
A #federated social web? and the #GNUsocial project at #FSCONS 2014 https://frab.fscons.org/en/fscon…
chrisb: A #federated social web? and the #GNUsocial project at #FSCONS 2014 https://frab.fscons.org/en/fscons14/public/events/147 !gnusocial
chrisb's status on Saturday, 11-Oct-2014 08:47:54 EDT
A #federated social web? and the #GNUsocial project at #FSCONS 2014 https://frab.fscons.org/en/fscons14/public/events/147 !gnusocial
lnxw37: @andyc That's why devs of so-called #federated #socnets need to make them inter-federate.
lnxw37's status on Wednesday, 12-Mar-2014 17:12:25 EDT
@andyc That's why devs of so-called #federated #socnets need to make them inter-federate.
lnxw37: @jeroenpraat Also, #AppDotNet is not #federated. Despite promises of "we're different", if I can't host my own, they can turn against me.
lnxw37's status on Thursday, 06-Feb-2014 14:51:07 EST
@jeroenpraat Also, #AppDotNet is not #federated. Despite promises of "we're different", if I can't host my own, they can turn against me.
lnxw37: @daw Part of that is the unwillingness of #federated projects to actually #interfederate with one another. Should be major priortiy, IMO.
lnxw37's status on Wednesday, 29-Jan-2014 19:24:32 EST
@daw Part of that is the unwillingness of #federated projects to actually #interfederate with one another. Should be major priortiy, IMO.
lnxw37: @gomerx Agreed. I think I would like it if #GNUSocial became easier to admin, simply because there would be more #federated instances.
lnxw37's status on Sunday, 19-Jan-2014 21:16:51 EST
@gomerx Agreed. I think I would like it if #GNUSocial became easier to admin, simply because there would be more #federated instances.
cmhobbs: Daydreaming about putting together a mini-zine featuring some #freesoftware or #federated web stuff. https://loadaverage.org/notice/183051
cmhobbs's status on Thursday, 16-Jan-2014 22:45:20 EST
Daydreaming about putting together a mini-zine featuring some #freesoftware or #federated web stuff. …
cmhobbs: Amazed to live in a world where my phone, computer, media player, and nearly my router all run #frees https://loadaverage.org/notice/150445
cmhobbs's status on Sunday, 05-Jan-2014 22:35:12 EST
Amazed to live in a world where my phone, computer, media player, and nearly my router all run #frees…
lnxw37: @cmhobbs ... well, that and true #federation with other #federated #socnets
lnxw37's status on Monday, 30-Dec-2013 12:16:33 EST
@cmhobbs ... well, that and true #federation with other #federated #socnets
lnxw37: @eric @whistlewright True, but partly b/c other #socnets (even #federated socnets) keep changing the way access performed.
lnxw37's status on Sunday, 29-Dec-2013 18:04:58 EST
@eric @whistlewright True, but partly b/c other #socnets (even #federated socnets) keep changing the way access performed.
lnxw37: @kylewm Best is for most networks to recognize that they need to interact with other #federated #socnets. "We'll do it our way only" == doom
lnxw37's status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 13:02:03 EST
@kylewm Best is for most networks to recognize that they need to interact with other #federated #socnets. "We'll do it our way only" == doom
lnxw37: @aegibson @bobjonkman A flaw of #federated #socnets that won't interfederate. I would like to cut back also.
lnxw37's status on Sunday, 01-Dec-2013 08:05:28 EST
@aegibson @bobjonkman A flaw of #federated #socnets that won't interfederate. I would like to cut back also.
lnxw37: Besides being #centralized instead of #federated, #AppDotNet is a shrine for Apple worshippers and no one else. #Disconnected.
lnxw37's status on Thursday, 28-Nov-2013 07:55:37 EST
Besides being #centralized instead of #federated, #AppDotNet is a shrine for Apple worshippers and no one else. #Disconnected.
lnxw37: @sazius @morph ... I have little interest in yet another "federated" network that won't talk to other #federated #socnets.
lnxw37's status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2013 10:34:01 EST
@sazius @morph ... I have little interest in yet another "federated" network that won't talk to other #federated #socnets.
lnxw37: @sazius @morph Part of it is making sure that devs know that users want #federated #socnets that interfederate with one another.
lnxw37's status on Saturday, 16-Nov-2013 10:32:52 EST
@sazius @morph Part of it is making sure that devs know that users want #federated #socnets that interfederate with one another.
lnxwalt: @habi Exactly. Multi-protocol support should be baked into every #federated network.
lnxwalt's status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2013 15:23:00 EDT
@habi Exactly. Multi-protocol support should be baked into every #federated network.
lnxwalt: @zoowar @habi That said, I wish the devs of various #federated #socnets would understand the need to interoperate.
lnxwalt's status on Thursday, 20-Jun-2013 13:27:32 EDT
@zoowar @habi That said, I wish the devs of various #federated #socnets would understand the need to interoperate.
lnxwalt: @4dmin@quitter.se Thanks for hosting a large #federated public !StatusNet site!
lnxwalt's status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2013 17:13:30 EDT
@4dmin@quitter.se Thanks for hosting a large #federated public !StatusNet site!
lnxwalt: @windigo ... he’s potentially going to rehost a clone of @x11r5 on a #federated !statusnet site.
lnxwalt's status on Wednesday, 05-Jun-2013 17:01:56 EDT
@windigo ... he’s potentially going to rehost a clone of @x11r5 on a #federated !statusnet site.
lnxwalt: @rozzin I hope he also keeps a copy and hosts on a #federated !statusnet instance. Both networks love @x11r5.
lnxwalt's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 14:56:21 EDT
@rozzin I hope he also keeps a copy and hosts on a #federated !statusnet instance. Both networks love @x11r5.
lnxwalt: @expatpaul I believe @erkanyilmaz is tracking #federated groups somewhere.
lnxwalt's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 14:32:35 EDT
@expatpaul I believe @erkanyilmaz is tracking #federated groups somewhere.
lnxwalt: @aqeeliz For #federated networks, more !federati is always a good thing.
lnxwalt's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 03:02:36 EDT
@aqeeliz For #federated networks, more !federati is always a good thing.
lnxwalt: @aqeeliz If it causes more people to self-host #federated instances, it will be good for !StatusNet. It can also do the same for #PumpIO.
lnxwalt's status on Tuesday, 04-Jun-2013 02:34:46 EDT
@aqeeliz If it causes more people to self-host #federated instances, it will be good for !StatusNet. It can also do the same for #PumpIO.
lnxwalt: @cross Did you set up / join a #federated !statusnet instance?
lnxwalt's status on Saturday, 01-Jun-2013 17:34:03 EDT
@cross Did you set up / join a #federated !statusnet instance?