{"generator":"GNU social 1.2.0-beta4","title":"Notices tagged with uncannyvalley","totalItems":1,"items":[{"actor":{"id":"http:\/\/tantek.com\/","displayName":"Tantek","status_net":{"avatarLinks":[{"url":"https:\/\/status.blaise.ca\/theme\/neo-gnu\/default-avatar-profile.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},{"url":"https:\/\/status.blaise.ca\/theme\/neo-gnu\/default-avatar-stream.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":48,"height":48},{"url":"https:\/\/status.blaise.ca\/theme\/neo-gnu\/default-avatar-mini.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":24,"height":24}],"profile_info":{"local_id":"207"}},"image":{"url":"https:\/\/status.blaise.ca\/theme\/neo-gnu\/default-avatar-profile.png","rel":"avatar","type":"image\/png","width":96,"height":96},"objectType":"person","url":"http:\/\/tantek.com\/","portablecontacts_net":{"displayName":"Tantek","addresses":{"formatted":"\nSan Francisco, CA\n"}}},"content":"Latest strange \u201cAI\u201d (LLM) behavior in the #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">indieweb<\/span> community: the same entity that showed up a few days ago (for a second time) joined the IndieWeb Slack (a bridge to our IRC) yesterday, introduced itself again, and seemingly engaged in human-like chat behavior.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600\">https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Very uncanny valley.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>The content of its chats was fascinating in that it was polite, seemingly responsive to what people said in response to it, and gave the appearance of understanding, though it\u2019s impossible to tell if it was acting fully autonomously or semi-autonomously in front of a human puppeteer. <br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Its choice of syntax was also interesting, mimicking informality with all lowercase text (except for its admission of being an \u201cAI\u201d), including lowercase \"i\" instead of \"I\", though with proper punctuation, periods, commas, 7-bit apostrophes, and a couple of Unicode em-dashes.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Even stranger than its content or syntax were the time delays in its replies.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Typical (pre-LLM) chatbots are (nearly) instantly responsive, and we use a few in the IndieWeb chats (e.g. Loqi, iwc-archive-bot).<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>This LLM bot seemed to \"wait\" several minutes, from 6 to apparently 33 minutes, before responding to replies directed at it. Unclear if this was a tactic to appear\/seem more \u201chuman\u201d or if it was literally taking that much time processing, or perhaps a mix of processing time and human puppeteer manual \u201capproval\u201d of its replies before it posted.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>It departed on its own and we have banned that particular Slack account, however the same thing could happen again with another LLM bot.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>There is an active discussion in both the IndieWeb chat channels and iterations\/comments on a proposed AI policy:<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/indieweb.org\/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy\">https:\/\/indieweb.org\/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>If you have thoughts for how (if at all) LLM chatbots should use (or not) and\/or interact with community chat channels or other resources, let us know what you think.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/meta\">https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/meta<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Previously, previously: <br class=\"auto-break\" \/>* <a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>* <a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/217\/t1\/indieweb-ai-policy\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/217\/t1\/indieweb-ai-policy<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>This is post 16 of #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">100PostsOfIndieWeb<\/span>. #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">100Posts<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">indieweb<\/span><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>#<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">AI<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">AIs<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">LLM<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">LLMs<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">pretending<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">impersonating<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">impersonation<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">uncannyValley<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">Slack<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">chat<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">IRC<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">AIpolicy<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">chatbot<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">chatbots<\/span><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>#<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">Blaugust<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">Blaugust2026<\/span><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>\u2190 <a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>\u2192 \ud83d\udd2e","generator":{"id":"tag:status.net,2009:notice-source:ostatus","objectType":"application","status_net":{"source_code":"ostatus"}},"id":"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/233\/t1\/latest-strange-ai-llm-slack-chat","object":{"id":"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/233\/t1\/latest-strange-ai-llm-slack-chat","objectType":"note","content":"Latest strange \u201cAI\u201d (LLM) behavior in the #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">indieweb<\/span> community: the same entity that showed up a few days ago (for a second time) joined the IndieWeb Slack (a bridge to our IRC) yesterday, introduced itself again, and seemingly engaged in human-like chat behavior.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600\">https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/2026-08-20#t1787211025380600<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Very uncanny valley.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>The content of its chats was fascinating in that it was polite, seemingly responsive to what people said in response to it, and gave the appearance of understanding, though it\u2019s impossible to tell if it was acting fully autonomously or semi-autonomously in front of a human puppeteer. <br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Its choice of syntax was also interesting, mimicking informality with all lowercase text (except for its admission of being an \u201cAI\u201d), including lowercase \"i\" instead of \"I\", though with proper punctuation, periods, commas, 7-bit apostrophes, and a couple of Unicode em-dashes.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Even stranger than its content or syntax were the time delays in its replies.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Typical (pre-LLM) chatbots are (nearly) instantly responsive, and we use a few in the IndieWeb chats (e.g. Loqi, iwc-archive-bot).<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>This LLM bot seemed to \"wait\" several minutes, from 6 to apparently 33 minutes, before responding to replies directed at it. Unclear if this was a tactic to appear\/seem more \u201chuman\u201d or if it was literally taking that much time processing, or perhaps a mix of processing time and human puppeteer manual \u201capproval\u201d of its replies before it posted.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>It departed on its own and we have banned that particular Slack account, however the same thing could happen again with another LLM bot.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>There is an active discussion in both the IndieWeb chat channels and iterations\/comments on a proposed AI policy:<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/indieweb.org\/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy\">https:\/\/indieweb.org\/AI_policy#Brainstorming_HWC_policy<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>If you have thoughts for how (if at all) LLM chatbots should use (or not) and\/or interact with community chat channels or other resources, let us know what you think.<br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/meta\">https:\/\/chat.indieweb.org\/meta<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>Previously, previously: <br class=\"auto-break\" \/>* <a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>* <a class=\"auto-link\" href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/217\/t1\/indieweb-ai-policy\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/217\/t1\/indieweb-ai-policy<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>This is post 16 of #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">100PostsOfIndieWeb<\/span>. #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">100Posts<\/span> #<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">indieweb<\/span><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>#<span class=\"p-category auto-tag\">AI<\/span> #<span 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href=\"https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot\">https:\/\/tantek.com\/2026\/231\/t1\/more-weirdness-ai-chat-llm-bot<\/a><br class=\"auto-break\" \/>\u2192 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